The Happy Podcast

Season 3’s latest episode of On the Sofa with British Mums is a warm, uplifting listen all about happiness and community in uncertain times. 

Emma is joined by Caitlyn and special guest Gillian from The Happy Tribe in Dubai to chat about how we can support small businesses right now, and why that matters so much for the people and families behind them.  

They also dive into the simple things that genuinely make us happy—from everyday moments and tiny rituals to finding connection and purpose in our local communities. 

It’s an honest, feel-good conversation full of practical ideas, positive energy, and reminders that even in wobbly seasons, we can still choose to show up for each other and find joy in the little things.

https://thehappytribe.ae/

https://britishmums.com/dubai/events/

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Hello and welcome to On the Sofa with British Mammoth. My name is Emma, and today I am joined by Caitlin and our recorder's guest, Jillian from the Happy Drive, for a really real good chat. We're talking about what it's like for small businesses in this uncertain season, how we can support them in real practical ways, and why that support means so much to the people behind the band. We also chatted about what actually makes us happy. Those little everyday moments, tiny rituals and connections that lift our mood and keep us going. It's a light, chatty, and generally uplifting episode, which we all need right now. So we hope it leaves you feeling a little bit brighter and more inspired to celebrate some happiness in your own little corner of the UAE. You are listening to On the Sofa with British Mums. Hello and welcome to On the Sofa with British Mums. This is season three, episode 16, and today we have a lovely podcast for you because my goodness, don't we need a little bit of cheer? So today we are talking all things that make us happy. The big things, the little things, the little bits in between, stuff that we might not notice unless we actually talk about it. And joining me from the British Mum's Dream Team, I have got Caitlin! Good morning. I've got my happy little Caitlin joining me with a smile that lights up the room. Guys, Caitlin's been on the podcast a million times. She's got so much to say about everything in life, and we're so busy.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

How are you, Caitlin? Good, really good. Yeah. Um blue skies, blue skies. We just said which makes such a difference. Kids are okay. Have you an India? Oh, brilliant. Yeah, he's just basically in India working, which is really good. So he's busy, dog's fine, works, yeah, everything's good. Yeah, yeah. I'm so pleased to hear that.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

We love hearing that. And joining us as our guest today, we have got Gillian from the Happy Tribe. Hello, Gillian. How are you today? Very good. Is this your first podcast experience? Yes. It is. And that makes it even nicer. Well, first off, I will I'll start by saying that I have two, I've got three actually now, beautiful bags from the Happy Tribe that my kids absolutely live in. They're like, there's like a sort of a pale pink, I don't know what this is, like a duffel bag? Yes. Yeah, a duffel bag, a pale pink one, and then a blue one, and they've got like little patches on like a little animal paw print, and then one of them's got a Mickey mouse and or a mini mouse, I think. Anyway, we love your stuff. We love the happy tribe. Thank you. I just think that your products are just uplifting because the colours and the choices and everything like that. So thank you so much for creating such a beautiful product. Um, so today we are talking things that make us happy. We're gonna dig into it, we're gonna talk about a little bit about small business because Jillian, you own obviously the happy tribe and you've gone through the the roller coaster that has been the last few weeks with your company, um, and still managed to keep your Instagram like a comedy show. Yeah, it's so happy.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

It's so funny. Yeah, I love your reels, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Now you you talked about you put you put an Instagram story out, or it was a reel, I can't remember what it was. It was a few weeks back now, and it was right when things were just sort of peaking, and it was it was very vulnerable, and you really laid yourself bare in this thing. You said, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna refilm I'm not gonna redo it, I'm just gonna put it out there. What was the response like to that video? I mean, you were saying, just for people that might not have watched it yet, that you were going, I don't know how to to do this, I'm not sure how to navigate this, I feel very upset, but you know, I have a team, I have a responsibility, I've got stuff that I have to do. So I'm not gonna apologize for maintaining the intention of my company, which was happiness. What was the response like to that video?

SPEAKER_03 3:45

Phenomenal. Amazing, absolutely phenomenal, and I'm so glad that I did it. And yeah, it was very vulnerable. I was very upset. I think it was definitely trying to hold back the tears when I was filming it. And I also said I was looking for someone to tell me what to do and um how to do it, and what was everyone else doing, and you know, I would copy them, and and then I had a word with myself and thought, well, I'm not bringing my children up like that to follow the pack and do what everyone else is doing. And my team have been with me since we set up, so we're another family as well. So yeah, I did say we are business as usual, we're very safe, we're obviously doing all the guidelines, and their response was incredible. And we've been we're very, very lucky, we've got a great community. Um we've been four years together now. And everybody just came together and understood what it was that I was trying to do. I think the staff, most importantly, like the the team that I work with, were just they felt better, they felt more reassured because the most important thing is that we come through this together. Yeah, we just can't sell that.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Yeah, and and as a as a business owner, you know, it's a bit like when I think at the the head teacher of a school or or the CEO of a company, I think that the the attitude of the owner, the captain of the ship, very much dictates how everybody feels. And it's the same at home. Yes. I know that like just something that I feel proud of, and I don't mind tooting my own hornwardness uh because I think it's good to do that sometimes. We have managed, myself and my husband, to keep the home happy throughout all of us. So very calm, very happy, no fear around the booms and the bits and bugs like that. And it I I think it very much comes from, you know, that's how the house is going to feel. So you know, you know what we're like, Kate, the fairy lights are up, the bunting's up, the music. Disney girls. That first weekend we're like, dumb, let's all just put on some Disney girls. And kind of just very much going, you know, we can choose how we do this. We we either spiral and and take a very negative sort of view of it, or we go, right, you we have to get through this, so let's do it noticing the little things that make us happy. Grabbing onto those little I I think I mentioned it last week, maybe the glimmers, that's it. Lovely like one of my friends, um, Sarah Sadiq, I will I will pop her book in the bio actually. She wrote a book um about motherhood, and she has this lovely quote in it, and she says, The cracks let the light shine through. And I think that sometimes in moments like this of adversity and things when we're very sort of, you know, not really knowing what's coming next, there are these little glimmers. There are these people coming together and and sort of doing things for other people and helping. And you mentioned uh Caitlin before the mics went on about a lovely thing from Lush. Lush gave boxes to um Hope Abel.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

And I I will also link all of that stuff down below because when I saw those stories, I was like, oh, that's so nice. But there's been so many stories that I've seen, and you must have felt it, from Happy Tribe of community, it's all about community, it's all about small businesses. Um Donna Benton I saw from The Entertainers doing a small business. She's doing a lovely and it's just and it's and it does, it makes you smile. And going back to what you were saying about you know, you have to put on a bit of a you know front with your children and be like, yeah, it's fine, another day of distance learning, and okay, we're always just gonna stay in India for longer. That's fine. Like, just like, yep, everyone's everyone's okay. But then I found I've got like gone on my phone and then on our WhatsApp group, we were just saying this as British mums, and you can then really say, Today's actually bad, today I'm actually not coping, but my children would know that it's fine, you know. Yeah, and I think that's been honestly, that's been so good, just having the right people around you so that you can put the smile on and be happy around your family, but go on a WhatsApp group or phone a friend or go on a dog walk or whatever and find, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Yeah, absolutely. I completely agree. And actually, um But the glimmers is good, I like that. The the the British mum's team, the the team that sort of uh are behind it have been an absolute like lifeline. I mean honestly, it's I don't know how I would have done it.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

Yeah, honestly, I don't first week it was like we were all just like how is it? And no, I think actually you'd often put in the morning like, How is everyone? Or Jen always did actually, like, how is everyone today? Yeah. And someone would be like, I'm okay today, actually. And then someone else would be like, No, I'm not, and it's just you just shared, and it was just it was really, really uplifting. 100%. What was behind the happy tribe?

SPEAKER_03 8:28

What made you why? Why happy tribe? Why happy tribe? I I was a social worker for 20 years with children and families, and when I moved to Dubai with all my children and my husband, I couldn't get work here. So I had an opportunity to do something completely different, and the only thing that I had a lot of experience in was travelling frequently with three children. I had three children in three years, all girls. Um so that was my other area of expertise was like grab and go. Like he's here, he's there, we're going to go and meet, you know, my husband. So um I got really good at packing and being organized, and uh so then I it just it was meant to be a side hustle, okay, but knowing my personality, um it just obviously didn't uh transpire like that. It became the business, and you know, we went from back bedroom to factory into the studio space that we've got now. The name is I always call my family the happy tribe. Oh, that's a lot more. As long as my tribe are happy, then I'm happy. Yeah. And it then became an extension into the business. And obviously, when we first employed um Kennedy, particularly, I didn't know him, but he is, you know, now my family. Um, it's my work family, he's like my work husband, you know. So the happy tribe name evolved from that feeling of togetherness. And I love that.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

And that's so nice.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

What's something about your team that makes you feel happy? Is there something about them as a they will pull out all the stops for anything or anyone, but they will they will never stop until a customer's happy or until we've got something delivered. And I it it can make me very emotional because I think behind the scenes what a lot of people don't see is how hard and how tireless that they do work every day and that they show up and no matter what. Um and they're incredible people, incredible people, and I think one of the best things, um obviously my team isn't huge, but I feel very lucky to be an employer because their lives are happier, they're better, we look after one another and we care deeply about one another. So, as you mentioned, when they saw me have a wobble, yes, they see me loud and they see me laughing and they see me talking constantly, but they also do know that there is that other side to me, which is the bigger side to me, which is very vulnerable, and a heart as big as the ocean, and that I wouldn't let anything, you know, happen to them and that they will be taken care of.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah, well that's amazing. I love that. That's a fantastic answer. I love that. What about you, Caitlin? And I you are I always say you are like having a golden retriever on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

You've said this before.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

I love it. Um, what makes you happy? What's a little thing that makes you happy? Something that it doesn't have to be, I mean, obviously, we all are gonna say our kids family. Let's be honest.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Like, I always said this before, my dog actually makes me really happy, but that's because he doesn't talk back at me and he just gives me so much cuddles. And I feel like he's literally picked up on the energy as well. Like I was saying last night. I'm going off on a tangent here, but I will come back to that question. But um, I was doing trying to do meditation with the dog, yeah, and Max just kept on coming in. Mum, mum, I'm like, me and Noodles are doing some meditation together. And then you know when you're like, what the like, what does that sound like? Me and Noodles are doing meditation together. What makes me happy? So Noodles, my dog, really makes he's a poodle, he makes me really happy. Um the poodle, the poodle, yeah. Of course, Max and Amelia named him. Um, yeah, people, people make me happy, definitely. Rory always says, You um if I do get in a because I do get in a bad mood sometimes, I do. Certain times of the month, I definitely get in a bad mood. Um, he always says, You need people. Oh my goodness, like if I've been around.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Do you need like a good girl date?

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Is that like your thing? You to go and like my sister-in-laws, my cousins, I'm really close to them. We have a big family WhatsApp, and they've been brilliant as well. And all like it's amazing, isn't it, how many people checked in and it's just from all over the world. Like we were laughing on Facebook. People that would message you, haven't seen them for 20 years. Are you okay? I know. Yeah. I haven't spoken to you for like 20 years. Yeah, we're okay, yeah. Thank you for checking in. Um, yeah, my girls, yeah. Yeah. But British mum's girls. I mean, I've I feel very lucky, very, very fortunate. I have amazing friends, and they are literally scattered all over the world. Yeah. Um, but yeah, my being with friends, yeah, a girly weekend, but it's definitely people that make me happy. Yeah. I love that. I do love a massage and I do love, you know, I could talk about that's a little one for me.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Which one? The cold side of the pillow. The cold side of the pillow. Do you not do that in the nights? Flip the pillow over. No. Oh, Jillian, I'm not in the warm side. No, I'm like warmth and I can't. I like to sleep. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

And it's like, oh my god, do you like? What do you mean? Is this a new treatment that I need to know about? Try it. When you wake up at the night, flip your pillow over. But I like being warm, I mean when we warm cold. Really, but you still like the cold so good notes. I'm gonna do that tonight. I'll do meditation again, yeah, and then I'll flip my pillow once I'm asleep.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

What about like dappled shade? That's one for me. Oh, do you know what one of my favourite things in the world is? You know when you're at the beach and the sun is in such a place where and then the water looks like it's had glitter thrown on it. That is one of the things. Sunsets make me happy. Sunsets and sunrise as though both.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

I'm I'm are you a sunset or a sunrise? Sunset, yeah. Me too. I like both. Like both. Yeah, both better happy.

unknown 13:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Because it's calming. Water, we were saying this, water is really calming. Yes. Having a pool, I know we're very busy. I know, yeah. I've got one of those caves pools if you know the easy above water in our just sitting outside with a coffee in the morning on my own. Because yeah, I love people, but there are moments you do need to be on your own. Yeah, so that's nice as well. But yeah, I think what this has also done this last how many days is it now? 13? I don't know. We're not going to count. We're not counting. We're not counting. Um, is that the appreciation of people, the and actually I think there has been, yeah, there's a lot of appreciation where we live as well. Um, and yeah, who's checked in and who yeah, grab onto those moments, whatever. If you're in the car and a song comes on and it's a really good song, I've been turning it up and singing really loudly. I bet you have. But I don't sing like you ever, so it's not as not as good. But that, yeah, that anything you just grab on to anything that brings you joy at the moment and turn off the news and turn off, yeah, don't don't don't go down a scroll hole.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Oh, you've got to be really careful not to do scrolls. My screen time is I think we should do like a thread where we all lay it bare and screenshot your look at it, Amelia Max would be like if I say to them, get off your phones, you've been on it far too long, da-da-da-da-da.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

They're like, Shall we look at your screen time? I'm like, I use it for work, which I do. But I was like, I use it for work, do something like that.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

You're not looking at my screen time, but it is embarrassing. I think we should start a thread and just be like, look, this is where I'm at. Can you imagine I'd be the only one that posted it on there?

SPEAKER_02 15:29

It is, it does, yeah. It's it's quite disgusting, isn't it? But then again, when I'm with people, I'm not on my phone. And I think there's been a lot of time where we have been on our own, and we're at home with our children and we're juggling a lot, and it's okay to go on your phone. It is because you know, you're messaging people, you're not looking on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

No, I have actually made a conscious effort this month to shop small. Yes. And I'm I know that we can't mention everyone, but I would like to shout out a couple of businesses that I have personally bought from. Um, actually, I'll mention one specifically, Loudmood. I don't know whether you follow them. No. Loudmood. Oh, you have the hat, the plus nine seven one. Yeah. Loudmood is a fantastic little business. It is a story. Handmade, hand-tie-dyed, beautiful fabrics, lovely, lovely girl. Caps, caps, hands. She does t-shirt, she does little um bandanas for dogs. Yes, it's all gorgeous stuff. So I've I've gotten both of my kids. One of them has a t-shirt that says uh feed me as I. And take me to the sea. And then the other one just says loud mood. And they're really, really gorgeous. I really wanted a hat as well, but she didn't have any left in stock, so I'm gonna have to go back. So her Catherine Jones as well. Catherine Jones is brilliant. Catherine Jones serum. She's a real cheerleader as well. She's a cheerleader, absolutely life-changing for the skin, and also got some beautiful hand cream as well. Um, that's a nice one. Who's another small business that I've can you think of anyone who'd used?

SPEAKER_02 16:53

I've just used sketch recently. I asked the girls actually, again, because we always ask on our group, you know, what would you recommend? Because we all support small. Um, so it's my friend's birthday, and I got her sketch pajamas. Oh, yes, I saw they look beautiful. Oh my goodness, and then she sent me a picture of them on and she's like, These are the softest pajamas, and I got her name embroidered there, really, really reasonably priced. But the best thing was I literally was very last minute, as Jillian knows, I'm always last minute. Easter baskets, like literally, I think, was it two days before? Yeah, sorry. Yeah, I was like, Oh, I need to make it make Easter a little bit more fun. Um, and she was like, We'll do it. And I was like, Are you sure? I've given you something like 24 hours notice. She was like, I'll bring them I'll bring them, I'll bring them to you. I'll bring them to you if I need to. Yeah, so yeah. So sketch pajamas. I love night blossom beads, but I think everybody does, everyone knows um lovely Amelia. Um, obviously Happy Tribe. Oh my goodness, there's so many.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Freebie Friday's been so Freebie Friday, and I'll mention it again because it's been a lovely initiative from the British Mums team, is that every Friday at the moment is Freebie Friday, and I just implore you guys to have a scroll down and like people's posts because it means so much. I've posted on Freebie Friday before. And when people engage with the post and go and like follow the Instagram and even if you might not ever need that service, but engaging with the post and and liking it, following their link, yeah, putting it, even if you share it on your stories, because it costs you nothing and it means the world as a small business owner. So, you know, make sure that you let's let's all sort of make that a bit of a thing and and support. What about you, Jillian? What what small businesses have you jumped in on in the last few weeks?

SPEAKER_03 18:28

I mean, loud mood, obviously loads, loads, and I think um I I think consciously as a family we we set out because we chose to move here to Dubai, obviously. So we still um eat out or order in, you know, we've we've definitely made a conscious effort to do that. Um and then there's been a lot of companies that have really championed uh small businesses, you know, Tash and Mo Morris. I mean, she set me the right way up when um my head was falling apart.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Oh, that's lovely.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

And so women like that have really kind of led the way for us and put our businesses into the spotlight. Um the ones that I have become obsessed with is cookie dealer Dubai.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Oh, I followed her the other day. It was the softness that I was going to ask about with a cookie.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Oh, I swallowed her the other day, and that looks insane. Like absolutely crazy.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

We'll eat up the chocolate. And then that remains. So I think what I've really tried to do um in terms of shopping, and obviously I've got three teenage girls, so there's always shopping to be done, is look at what is it they want and what is it that we can get, you know, from other small businesses and locally. We did the Elves Club on Friday um with Tiny Beans, and there were so many small businesses, and the community that show up and try and support is is outstanding. And I would absolutely put my hand on heart and say that nowhere else have I ever seen a community come together like that and want to build each other up and see what they can do and see how they can help and um you know bring a lot of people together. I've done the um loudmood, I'm obsessed with my cat. I've also done in words gifting, um she'll be mortified that I've mentioned her, but anyway, nice. She does beautiful notebooks um and they're like in words gifting. Okay. And they have she used to do little journals called Small Wins and like little daily reflections, and she does keepsake memory boxes, um, which I I love all that stuff. And the latest thing that she's done is letter writing boxes.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Oh, nice. Oh, let's start writing letters together. Yes, that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

So when you're talking about so I set more challenge, I gifted her one and I said to her, like, you know, by the end of this week, you need to have your 20 letters written, whether they're to you or from you, because we are on the phones, WhatsApps, you know. I I have banned everybody in work from sending WhatsApp messages because it's a lift of phone time. It's too much now at this point to be WhatsApp. Anybody you want to speak to, customers, whatever, lift a phone and speak. Yes. See how the mood is, see how they are, talk to them. It will help you, it will help them.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

So are you talking about physically ringing?

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Physically ringing people. There is no WhatsApp messages now. That's not even a voice note. No, God no.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

A hard voice. Wait, I want to know. This is a poll I want to take. Are you for voice notes or against voice notes? Firmly against. Oh, yeah. Firmly against. I love a voice note. How many voice notes I've played?

SPEAKER_03 21:34

If you've time to voice note, you've time to call.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Do you think you're I actually I call my friend, I've got the my best friend in the world. I always call her in the car because I've got this thing when I'm in the car and I'm like, I I don't want to be on my own. Put your music on, sing. I know, but I want to I want to connect to some connection. I'm a I'm a phone caller. I'm I'm in obviously one of my jobs is a sales when I'm when when my business is up and running. It will come, it will come, it will come, it will come. Um but I do sales and I love. Connecting with people. I can't. I'm gonna say more. The difference that that makes. The difference it makes, it does. But I love a voice note as well. One of my favourite things is like on a Friday, right? And this is what me and my best friend in the UK, we've got a bit of a thing that we always do, like a catch-up on a Friday afternoon. Going into the garden, sitting with a glass of rose, and she sends me like a podcast. Like sometimes her voice notes are like 15 minutes long, and I sit down, I like, I take notes of what I'm gonna say about the gym, and I'm like, what do you mean you don't?

SPEAKER_02 22:30

She's like, I can't keep a track of it. So I'm literally like, okay, oh, I need to mention that. Oh, okay, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Yeah, yeah. But actually, it's funny because I sent um, I I know that Helen won't mind me saying this, but I sent Helen Farmer a voice note um a couple of weeks back talking about distant learning. It was it was a short one. We were I we we were just touching base. And I sent her this voice note and she said, I just want you to know that I absolutely hate voice notes, but I'll make an exception on this occasion. Okay, well, I'll never voice note you.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

I think I do, oh my goodness, I do voice note Julian. It's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Now I know. And I will message back. And it can go once it can go on, you just you style.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

I love that, I love that though. I think it's one of the things that splits people. It's a bit like do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 23:09

You kind of know though, if you always voice note, now I do know, because that makes sense. If you always voice note and then you just get a message back, it's like, okay, they're not a voice note person.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

I guess right on that right now you need to hear people write as they are at that time. I think because you never know how anybody is right at that moment. Yeah. So it you know, we we are so used to it in Dubai, and uh, you know, it is again very unique. Life lives on WhatsApp, um, but we don't know right now how that other person is feeling. And so WhatsApp, we're all very used to the in how intrusive WhatsApp is in our life. Yes. Other people aren't, other countries aren't. Yes. So and and we also now, you know, when you're in Dubai, we look we're like, oh, it's a WhatsApp. And we don't go, she's so rude, she's looked at her phone, oh my gosh, she's checking. It's a given, it's a WhatsApp, what might it be? It could be one of ten things. So we're like, so the intrusivity of getting that all the time is now healthy, is it now? At this point, I think what we need to do is are you alright? Yeah. What do you need? Yeah, like um, you order something clean and you're personalised, and you might need you might have forgotten to add the name. Yeah, uh-huh. Yes, I have, okay. Um, and even suppliers, like we we out we've had huge logistic problems, which is boring, but we went, uh I took my daughters, they'll never forgive me. We went on a trek to Burjabai, um, oh it's not Mall of the Emirates, but we went and met fabric people. Yes, and these people hadn't had anybody in their stores for like 19 days. So that experience of being with people, looking them in the eye, saying thank you.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Giving them a hug as well.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

I've gone into so many places and been like, Do you need a hug? And just hugged people, yeah. The ballet guys yesterday, they just looked I didn't hug them. I wanted to. I tell I told my banners, I really wanted to hug the ballet guys. They looked just going for a meeting, and I was like, Oh, they just looked sad and they were so appreciative. I was like, Do they need a hug?

SPEAKER_03 25:03

Yeah, I left brunch on Sunday and I hugged the Quantum Husband.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Oh, so you did. Oh, amazing. I can't. What crunch hug makes you feel so good?

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Was it good? It was amazing, but it I mean we are yin and yang, but he's just like, I can't with you, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Oh no, I like it. I think it's nice, and I think human connection is is something that never more needed. It's never more needed, and uh and there's been some just beautiful moments. It does, it does. Yeah, I I think so. I I completely agree. I was just saying, I uh I saw a thing about getting kids landlines, and I actually think that is so so when I was younger, I had a landline, like a you know, with the coil. Yes. Did you do it? Was it it was see-through this landline.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

I had that.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Did you have that? See-through phone. Do you just remember like chatting to your friends on ours? In the whole with the rest of the family. My blow-up sofa. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

And your mum lifted the phone at the other end, you didn't click. Yeah. Was it your mum or was it your brother? Stop listening at the time, friend!

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Oh, you've been on the phone for ages. No, no, I don't know. Because was it the the internet didn't used to work when you were on the phone? No, that's it. It was dialogue internet.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Yeah, you couldn't have both. No, no, no. Can you get off the phone because we need to do that?

SPEAKER_01 26:14

That we'd go into if we didn't have the internet.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Now we're like I think our kids would actually love it though. I think they would love to, because we always talk about how good the 80s, the 90s it was. Melia always says, I want an old-fashioned camera. They want to be part of the older, you know, what we what we grew up in.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

I think they would love to handline.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Not on our phone. I said, Oh yeah, when I went travelling, I just had like a camera and I had to then go and get them all. I didn't have my pictures while I was away. I came back, took them to booths, and then got all the no idea what you look like. And you didn't end up with it. You couldn't pick them. They were awful pictures. You can't end up yeah, they're terrible photos, but yeah, we were in the moment. So I actually think our kids actually want to be, they would love it like that. I think they would actually enjoy it. A landline is a great idea.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

I actually remember my mum gave me a disposable camera when I went on the ski trip. Um at ski. She did, but so I forgot I had this camera right the whole week. I took not a single photo. So she had a whole and she went and developed it, but all of them were of the coach journey home. I just took loads of photos.

SPEAKER_00 27:21

Yeah, that was it.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

She was like, there was like some of the back of the person's head in front of me, and she was like, There are no photos of you skiing. No. And I was like, no, sorry, mum. Just on the coach journey. Yeah, just the coach journey back, that's it. Just everybody asleep, passed out, absolutely done. Oh my goodness, girls, you've really made me smile. It's been an absolute pleasure having you on the podcast today, Jillian. You have brought lots of happiness to the room. So thank you so much for being here. Um, obviously, Caitlin, I love having you on the podcast. A joy. My golden retriever. Um we hope that you guys find some happiness in this slightly unusual time. Please keep on supporting small. Please go and engage with those posts on Freebie Friday. Follow them on Instagram, it will make such a big difference. Go and buy your bits and birthday presents and skincare and whatever it is from those small businesses because it really does make a massive difference. And let's make sure that we keep our community being a happy place, being somewhere where people feel safe and joyful and can uh yeah, let the light shine through the cracks. You are a part of this now. Oh, that was such a lovely episode. Genuinely was just really, really lovely to sit and talk about happy things and raise our vibration and uh just be with some lovely ladies uh that run lovely businesses. Uh this episode was filmed before uh we knew that we were going to be going back into school. So this is just a quick message from the team to say that if your kiddos are back in school this week, we hope that you are okay, we hope that they are okay. If you're not back in school this week, we hope that you are okay, and we hope that they are okay. We are sending lots of love to the community during this time, and brighter days will be coming soon.